Cabinet Meeting XIV
Thursday, 21 November 2013
Meeting Start: 12:36
Attendance: Kevin Crooks, Larry Hailsham, Brogan McGowan, Grace Flowers, Skylar Ray, Garrett Devenney, Austin Cosgrove, Sloane Prince, Katie Beck
Constituents: Eric Chang
Kevin
Met with President Mullen and Gilly (?) yesterday morning
Next semester, going to have a meeting in Tippie with AEC
Main reason for meeting: increase communication between us, AEC, and Trustees
Will be continued with a series of presentations from them
Instead of just Kevin and Larry going, groups will be proposed and students from all-college committees
For more transparency, they will give us more minutes and agenda, and they'll get more ASG stuff
Sloane will work on a more comprehensive minutes listing
Looking forward a few weeks, we meet on Monday
Doing a team-building, opening-up activities
December 2nd, meeting to plan our December 3rd meeting
→ Jacquie is coming on
→ Student Reps from the Curriculum Committee and Academic Standards and Awards Committee
(Curriculum Committee is proposing that we get rid of distribution and replace them with a set of more intentional requirements)
(ASAC is going to bring some changes to the add/drop period)
Because of these things, I'm thinking of changing the room for that meeting
A square? Hang out nametags at the door, allow people to sit wherever
Give me some suggestions!
Since we only have a few more meetings, we need to stay focused
Cabinet on the 5th, Formal over the meeting, Final meeting on the 10th
Katie
Are we going to have a brainstorming session on Monday?
Bylaws → I don't have anything from my committee, and I'm a bit ignorant and confused about the whole thing
Kevin
We're updating bylaws, since they're a bit outdated, and we're adding Katie's committee
There was a document last semester; we'll try to get that
Look at the duties of the other members on Cabinet
Brogan
Wouldn't it need to have ASG Senators?
Larry
It would depend on how you write it
Kevin
Every standing committee does not have to a representative from each class
Unless you put something in there requiring senators, they don't need to be there
Some changes from last year: PR had 2, now it has one; EA had 1, now it has 2, etc.
With the newly passed commitment, we need to
1. Decide how to publicize and inform clubs
2. How we'll go about the constitutional changes
3. Follow-up from the clubs and the trainings, and the money
Katie
We could outline a step-by-step process
These things would go through the DIC, and we would keep track
Could we utilize PR for these things?
(Sloane nods)
Kevin
My clarification question is: they put it in their constitutions and then they go to the trainings?
Larry
I think it would be easier to have them add it to their constitution with the full intention that everyone on their Exec board commit to going through these things
- Some discussion on the timing -
Kevin
Just the wording says that all exec board members must go through it
Jake
But there's no termination period. We would need to set one
Katie
SET has something like that in their constitution, but it says by the 3rd general meeting
Larry
Somebody will have to start going through a step-by-step process for this
Kevin
Do you want to start the process next semester?
Katie
For Spring 2014
Kevin
So we would start it in the Spring, and clarify it differently for the years to come
We could even have an information session on it
I would like us to have those guidelines and start implementing those next semester
Katie
I can send you those
Kevin
Reflections on the meeting on Tuesday
Eric Chang
I talked to a couple of my senators after the meeting, and we all throught that meeting was very tense, and we thought that last vote was very pressured
I feel like that comment that Paige made pushed a lot of people's votes
Larry
Something that happened was that people took pictures of the vote
It could be documentation for the entire meeting, or it could
Brogan
I understand that the presence of 65 people is
But what is your impression, as a representative, as to what would happen if one of your constituents came up to do
Eric
I want to know their reasoning first, and then I would take that into consideration between my own feelings towards the bill
Brogan
But as a senator, you're supposed to serve as a neutral base
Why did you feel that you had to be swayed? Why did your personal opinion get in the way of that?
Why do you think that their presence was a negative thing
Larry
The main point of this was not
It's every senator's job to approach things with a level head and with an open vote
But at the end of the day, we can't control the way people vote
They just need to understand the way they vote should be representative of the people they talk to
Eric Chang
Maybe I should just go in with a more neutral thing, but maybe I should put a heavier weight on my constituent's opinions
But who can say they're going to be 100% neutral
When I talked to people who wanted to know more about the initiative, they were agreeing with what I was saying before I even mentioned my thoughts
Grace Flowers
If he got that opinion from people on campus and that opinion was swayed by those constituents, that could be an intimidating problem, and that should be addressed
Brogan
I guess that what I'm asking is, that, as a voter, what would you change to make you feel more comfortable?
Eric
What would be the possibility of doing the vote like a secret ballet?
Kevin
In the future, that could be possible
If we have another hot-button topic, we could have a write-in or an roll-call
Brogan
If you have a constituent, it's your responsibility to be transparent
Larry
As an elected official, it is your obligation to let people know how you voted
This is something where, even if we go through the proper procedure, we have to be transparent with voted
And this is how democracy works
Coercion is a huge part of democracy; if there was no coercion, nothing would get done
Katie
I've received a lot of emails from people and I'm not sure how to voice them in a perfessional session
Sloane
It's not practical to record who votes how in the minutes
But if we do a write-in vote, we would have that data
So in that sense, this would be even more transparent
Kevin
I think we need to addess different kinds of voting techniques
Katie
If we have a conversation like this, maybe we could have constituents involved
Larry
Regardless, somebody is going to be angry about something, and we have to go into anything accepting that
Kevin
That was a unique meeting and a unique vote, so some of the issues that we saw in that meeting are probably not going to be commonly-occurring
Eric Chang
Thank you for letting me make these comments and addressing them
I did have a lot of friends that were interested in this; they didn't think that this initiative was advertised enough
They hoped that, in the future, that big meetings like these would be advertised more, maybe big meetings or big posters
Katie Beck
I tried reaching out to the constituents that I remember were there
I received some back saying they were concerned about the state of ASG as a whole, and how we're run
Some said that, because of the message board, they don't know how things happened
They also addressed how Cabinet looks during the meetings
Kevin
Were there any specific issues?
If there was anything you don't want to mention, could you put them in a word document
The thing that worries about me is that the constituents that were coming to our meetings aren't really trusting our judgment on other issues
Larry
I think that, during our next meeting, we can talk about how ASG is going
Kevin
Before leaving, if you have any issues with anyone on ASG, I would try to talk to them first, and if that doesn't work, we can have a facilitated conversation
