Cabinet Meeting IX
Thursday, 31 October 13
Meeting Start: 12:35
Pre Meeting
If Katie Beck has a Tuesday report, somebody from her committee will report for her.
Lee Scandinaro is here!
Attendance: Kevin Crooks, Larry Hailsham, Brogan McGowan, Skylar Ray, Sloane Prince, Katie
Beck, Jake Ballinger
Kevin
→ Sloane, loop thing
→ People from the Loop will come to Cabinet next Thursday and then on Tuesday
→ They are unhappy with students being disrespectful to bus drivers and to the bus itself
→ Every three or four years they have a really bad year, and that fight two weekends ago between the
Meadville citizens and the students did not help matters
→ People take it for granted and they don't understand
→ It's a problem when we people start coming back from the bars around 2:00
Brogan
→ Could there be a legitimate capacity aspect?
→ Maybe there needs to be a system where they
Larry
→ In Meadville, the problem is because of Allegheny
→ In Pittsburgh, you have to swipe a card and such
→ This is something that can be looked into, but it would require CATA to reconfigure their buses
Lee → Draft Proposal Commitment to Inclusivity
→ Updates: Safe Zone Training I
Jake
→ $100 reward?
→ Is this coming about because
Brogan
→ Safe Zone and Bystander Trainings are not effective if people are forced to go to them
→ I don't want this sort of incentive to wash out the meaning of these trainings
Katie
→ If people want these $100 they should want to still go to the trainings
→ Right now we're having trouble with people attending the trainings at all because the people who
want to have already been
Lee
→ There is the aspect of the aftertraining, which is a reflection piece
→ That's starting at least something
Larry
→ If this is going to be optional, it needs to be more explicitly noted
Lee
→ One of the great things is that this is for new clubs; $100 for a new club is a lot
→ This is something we value, and this is something that ASG values enough to do it
Larry
→ Katie, how do you feel aobut this?
Katie
→ Fully support it; this is an opportunity for something that ASG can put its name on
→ It shows clubs and organizations that ASG puts value on this
Larry
→ Skyler, is it feasible?
Skyler
→ I don't see every club coming at once, so it should be
Katie
→ It's a great way to get club leaders involved
Lee
→ Their personal beliefs don't matter; but as a club on a campus that values inclusivity, they should be
able to talk about these things as leaders
Skyler
→ Accountable?
Lee
→ We should be holding people responsible for carrying out our statemet of community
Larry
→ What Lee is saying is that as student leaders, we are all accountable to uphold and contribute to our
Statement of Community
Brogan
→ I don't think that its fair to ask these clubs and organizations to do this if ASG hasn't already done it
→ Every single member of ASG, without exception, needs to have two out of three of these trainings
complete
→ If this continues, it needs to be introduced to the bylaws
Kevin
→ So you said earlier that Valerie wasn't happy that we made people get Safe Zone Training
Brogan
→ If this was going to be implemented, it's infair for ASG to stand behind something if ASG isn't
going to do it themselves
Lee
→ ASG is a bit exceptional because we have have 53 members
→ But there are several other trainings!
→ Bystander Training; ELR, CLC, etc.
Brogan
→ I'm aware that this is a step towards getting people to understand
→ But I think this is a community problem of people not wanting to be involved
→ And if ASG puts their name on it without having done it, it loses some of the value
Lee
→ Our inability to hold our student accountable is not an excuse
→ We should have already done it as individuals
→ This is literally just an experimental, let's see what happens thing
→ This isn't going to be a life-changing
→ It's a PR stunt
Kevin
→ Not quite
Lee
→ It's an ASG PR stunt for these trainings
Kevin
→ This is constitutional
Lee
→ What would PR look like?
Kevin
→ See Sloane
Sloane
→ There was an email sent out to coaches
→ My captain told us that we're all going to Bystander Training
→ If you're looking not to force people, PR-wise, you can talk to captains
→ I do understand the incentive
→ It's not going to be perfect and we're not going to find a solution
→ An incentive might lean more towards forcing people
Kevin
→ Have we gone to every
→ These trainings aren't our jurisdiction
→ They aren't our run issues
Lee
→ So what do we value as ASG?
Kevin
→ We value student opinion
Lee
→ I want student opinion to
Brogan
→ I think that we need to remember that Cabinet serves the Senate
Katie
→ A couple of weeks ago, when we were talking with Kazi and JoeDi about how to uphold our
Jake
→ 3 things
1. Given that there are no logistical impediments, we can go ahead and suggest it. Given the cost-
benefit of the time spent in training versus the payoff of the extra $100, I don't think that many people
would do it anyway, so the logistics shouldn't be a barrier
2. Why not talk to clubs and gauge their interest?
3. We talked about throwing an event...could this maybe be part of that?
Brogan
→ I still think that if ASG is behind it, we should require it
Lee
→ Clubs can go through this process if this is what they stand for
→ If not, then not
→ But again, its holding leaders accountable
Sloane
→ If my captains put this in for the next year, would the next year's captains choose to do this?
Brogan
→ It can be in the constitution as an option
→ So rising executive members can choose to do it
Larry
→ Is this $100 a one-time thing?
Lee
→ It's a one-time thing
Larry
→ I think that the writing should denote that
Katie
→ We're trying to change college culture
→ Its something that encourages people to
Kevin
→ I think we have to think about clubs on this campus
→ Clubs are very fluid
→ I don't think we should put things in their constitutions
→ It should be an option every year
Jake
→ Could we put it in the ASG Constitution instead?
Brogan
→ It would remove the
Lee
→ The federal government gave tax breaks to schools that desegregated. This is the exact same thing.
→ I expect maybe 10 clubs to do this
→ We just need to be transparent
→ Literally just saying that ASG supports these trainings that value inclusivity
→ Maybe nobody will do it, but we'll revise it for the next semester
→ So I don't understand the
Skyler
→ Make it fully clear
Brogan
→ Do you want a straw poll?
Lee
→ I'll bring a revised version to Senate on November 12th
Kevin
→ We'll talk about the agenda on Monday, but it you have a request, send it to Larry by Sunday
Meeting End: 1:20
